The moon and stars they wept
The morning sun was dead
The Saviour of the world was fallen
His body on the cross
His blood poured out for us
The weight of every curse upon him
One final breath he gave
As heaven looked away
The son of God was laid in darkness
A battle in the grave
The war on death was waged
The power of hell forever broken
The lyrics above are taken from Kari Jobe’s song “Forever” (2014), which is popular at Good Friday and Easter services. Biblically, they make no sense. “The moon and stars” didn’t weep when Jesus died. He isn’t “the morning sun” either. Finally, no “battle” raged in “the grave” and no “war on death was waged” after Jesus died. He said “it is finished” from the cross, a shout of victory (John 19:30). Jesus won the war against sin, death, and hell before he took his last breath. So why would Ms. Jobe (now Mrs. Carnes), a graduate of Christ for the Nations Institute and Dallas Baptist University write such lyrics? I’ve never had doctrinal issues with a Jobe song before.
I learned from Kari Jobe’s official website that “Forever”
celebrates the collision of heaven and earth. “It’s painting a picture here on earth as believers of our redemption story, but then it’s also telling of what heaven’s going to look like in our worship because it’s going to be forever singing that He is glorified and He is lifted high. So it’s marrying the two worlds in a song.”
“Collision of heaven and earth,” “marrying the two worlds”: these phrases sound like Bethel Church (Redding, California), which is immersed in the occult. Believers pass from earth to heaven when they die, but they can’t “marry the two worlds” in their spiritual lives. The result is Christian paganism. “The earth is the Lord’s” (Psalm 24:1, 1 Corinthians 10:26), but the “god” or “prince” of this world is Satan (John 12:31, 14:30, 16:11; 2 Corinthians 4:4, Ephesians 2:2). He blinds the minds of unbelievers and enslaves them to do his will (2 Corinthians 4:4, 2 Timothy 2:26). Since Christ’s kingdom is “not of this world” (John 18:36), what Kari Jobe calls the “collision of heaven and earth” is really “the marriage of heaven and hell.” Light can’t commune with darkness; God’s temple can’t agree with idols (2 Corinthians 6:14, 16). Therefore, we shouldn’t “drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils” (1 Corinthians 10:21). Instead, we must be “separate” and “touch not the unclean thing” if we want to be received into God’s family (2 Corinthians 6:17-18).
The moon and stars they wept
The morning sun was dead
Do these lines contain paganism? After reading about witchcraft in C. S. Lewis’ Chronicles of Narnia, I learned that the answer is a resounding yes. Nowhere in scripture do we find creation weeping at the cross. And only once in scripture is Jesus Christ referred to as the sun: “unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings” (Malachi 4:2; cf Psalm 84:11). Jesus still isn’t the sun, since he created it (John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:16). And we’re commanded to worship God, not his creation (Exodus 20:3-5, Romans 1:22-25). The prophet Ezekiel saw priests “with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east” (Ezekiel 8:16). God had one word for this idolatry: abomination (8:15, 17).
So what’s going on? These lines describe the ancient Egyptian legend of the death and resurrection of Osiris, son of the sun god Ra. His sister-wife Isis, the moon goddess, wept as she collected his severed body. C. S. Lewis (1898-1963) transformed this pagan legend into the death and resurrection of Aslan in his fantasy novel The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (1950). The story has a Christian veneer, but the substance is pagan. Marrying paganism with Christianity always results in syncretism. Why would Lewis do this? He stated in Reflections on the Psalms (1958) that “Christ fulfills both paganism and Judaism.” Judaism, yes. Paganism, no. Lewis’ understanding of Christianity was itself corrupt. Why do death and resurrection legends even appear in pagan cultures? I don’t know. They’re still idolatry and witchcraft, a corruption of sound biblical truth, and we shouldn’t embrace them as pre-Christian revelation.
Is the presence of the Osiris legend in “Forever” accidental? I doubt it. I don’t know where Kari Jobe learned this pagan legend, but it may have come from one of her alma maters – CFNI, Dallas Baptist, or Oral Roberts University (whose founder is apostate). If so, they will answer to God for teaching syncretism. “The marriage of heaven and hell” is also a problem at Gateway Church, a non-denominational charismatic church near Dallas, Texas, where Jobe is a worship pastor. Gateway is the fourth largest church in America. Its pastor, Robert Morris, has been accused of teaching prosperity theology. Four years ago, he invited Glenn Beck, a Mormon, to give his testimony.
Both syncretism and Kari Jobe’s ecumenical desire “to see denominational barriers broken down and believers united” through worship alarm me about the spiritual state of evangelical Christian culture. I don’t believe that denominationalism is of God, since Paul warned believers in Corinth that “I am of Paul” and “I am of Apollos” demonstrates a carnal mind (1 Corinthians 3:4). The existence today of Lutheran (Martin Luther) and Wesleyan Methodist (John Wesley) denominations is proof that the visible church hasn’t changed. Doctrine still matters. The word of God is truth, a spiritual sword (Matthew 10:34, Ephesians 6:17, Hebrews 4:12, Revelation 1:16). Throughout history, denominations have been created by a fundamental difference in doctrine. However, authentic believers aren’t divided by denomination. Since Pentecost, they’ve been united by the Spirit of truth (John 14:17, 15:26, 16:13, 17:21-23; Acts 2:1, 44-46).
I agree with Kari Jobe that worship “is about us being thankful for the cross and magnifying the name of Jesus above all names. Anything past that is just feel-good music.” I still question her understanding of sound Christian doctrine. I also question Jobe’s connections in evangelical Christian culture, which is leading unsuspecting believers into the New World Order. Moving the church from sound doctrine toward ecumenical unity is one of their goals. Don’t believe me? Click here. As you’re researching the apostasy in evangelical Christian culture today, pray for God to remove the veil from your eyes.
I removed “Forever” from my mp3 player and my computer’s hard drive. I suggest that others do the same. The church needs biblically sound worship. It doesn’t need syncretistic paganism.